I posted this pic a while back of what i guess is there adventure bike ?
I also enjoyed the duel sport bikes until the XL650R when the seat got to high and set on a African Twin which was the same.
owned 3 Harley's and am done with them anyway just like my VTX1800S
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09-19-2017 08:21 PM
Stichill
Road Warrior
Northern Kentucky, USA
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(09-18-2017 08:11 PM)Stichill Wrote: ...sport tourers have been kicked to the curb in favor of ADVs. I think the ADV craze is driven by old guys who want to sit upright, but still want to be seen as cool.
Ahem...
My Ktm 990 Adventure was the best sports tourer I ever had...
I won't argue there are poseurs in the adv crowd. However, they are superior bikes for sport touring in a lot of ways, if you're not height challenged. The only thing you sacrifice really is not getting a full fairing.
Point taken. I'm not saying you can't sports tour on an ADV...but that's not how they are marketed. They are marketed as "the placid stream's worst nightmare" when in fact they are 1200cc road bikes that require real skill and athleticism to pilot in rough offroad terrain. Can the bikes do it? Yes. Can most of their buyers do it? No. Do most of the buyers even try to do it? No. Do most people want to crash offroad on a bike that expensive? Absolutely not.
I think the Ducati Multistrada 1200 is a more honest interpretation of the genre. Looks offroad capable but...meant for the street.
(09-18-2017 08:11 PM)Stichill Wrote: ...sport tourers have been kicked to the curb in favor of ADVs. I think the ADV craze is driven by old guys who want to sit upright, but still want to be seen as cool.
Ahem...
My Ktm 990 Adventure was the best sports tourer I ever had...
I won't argue there are poseurs in the adv crowd. However, they are superior bikes for sport touring in a lot of ways, if you're not height challenged. The only thing you sacrifice really is not getting a full fairing.
Point taken. I'm not saying you can't sports tour on an ADV...but that's not how they are marketed. They are marketed as "the placid stream's worst nightmare" when in fact they are 1200cc road bikes that require real skill and athleticism to pilot in rough offroad terrain. Can the bikes do it? Yes. Can most of their buyers do it? No. Do most of the buyers even try to do it? No. Do most people want to crash offroad on a bike that expensive? Absolutely not.
I think the Ducati Multistrada 1200 is a more honest interpretation of the genre. Looks offroad capable but...meant for the street.
Lol.. I'll buy that for a dollar... It was a handful off road, but I could do it (thx to american supercamp). I had a xr650 for more dedicated off road stuff. That said, it was nice t know if a road went to dirt/gravel, I didn't have to turn around...
Based upon friends who have BMW GS1200's (for sports touring), I doubt most see dirt at all.
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09-19-2017 10:47 PM
Frulk
High Mileage
Utah
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Looked at Harleys recently when I was in the market for another bike since the local motorcycle cops were raving about the new engine. Dealership turned me off as much as the selection, lifestyle rather than the ride. I'd enjoy having one in the garage and will probably do so someday.
Kudos to them for trying to evolve beyond their existing customer base.
Check out RTWDoug if you want to read about an Harley adventure bike, one of a kind builder and rider that I met once.
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09-20-2017 07:00 AM
jimgl3
High Mileage
Covington, Ga
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(09-15-2017 07:27 PM)Stichill Wrote: I dig the the 2018 Softail Low Rider. What a darned good-looking bike. Might have to demo one just to torment myself.
I would own one of these right now if I could afford it, but I know I can't.
10-07-2017 04:56 AM
redbirds
Been There
Patterson, GA, USA
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(09-19-2017 08:46 PM)Stichill Wrote: I think the Ducati Multistrada 1200 is a more honest interpretation of the genre. Looks offroad capable but...meant for the street.
Agree that Ducati got it right. I had a 2007 Triumph Tiger 1050, a bike that somewhat fit the ADV genre but it came shod with 17" street oriented tires and was not so tall that a height challenged guy like me could not ride it. It was a very competent sport-touring bike with a good seat, upright riding position and great handling. Unfortunately, Triumph stopped importing it after a few years and replaced it with a tall, heavy ADV with street-off road tires to better compete in the category.
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10-07-2017 07:02 AM
jimgl3
High Mileage
Covington, Ga
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For the riding I do around here, my Road King did it the best. Two lane highway at 60-65, turning about 2500 rpm. It handled great, great brakes(Brembo calipers) and good mileage at 46mpg. Now this is taking into consideration it is not a 600, its a big touring rig. I'm used to bikes that are above 500lbs. Now in town, that's a different story. My CB1100 wins. Will not sell the 1100 but if I'm able to, there will be another Road King in the garage. For the market segment Harley is targeting, my opinion is no one does it better.