SportsterDoc -----> And here is the post I found you made on WG:
" I think it important for V7/V7 II/V7 III riders to note that my decision is not much of a negative reflection on the bike.
I very much enjoyed riding it, but other factors were involved, such as dirt roads and the Las Vegas dealership.
I am very much done with Freedom Euro Cycle in Las Vegas
I was treated well by sales, service and parts.
I liked owners Brad and Mark Yuill.
Then I encountered Chris, who stated he was an owner (but not on the Secretary of State website for incorporation).
It went downhill when he moved my bike out of a parking space so that he could park his Jaguar in that space.
When I confronted him, he apologized, but his true attitude was displayed yesterday...since I probably embarrassed him during the first encounter.
It boils down to not wanting to further support his arrogant attitude.
Not going there anymore (for MG or Triumph) makes it 300 miles to nearest dealer.
BTW, although treated well by the service department, for the first service last Feb/Mar; getting things done while I wait (36 mile round trip) may be much more difficult. They buy tons of bikes on auction and the service department can get slammed, prepping them for resale."
(This post was last modified: 11-18-2017 04:29 PM by DaSwami.)
11-18-2017 04:28 PM
SportsterDoc
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(11-10-2017 05:06 PM)SportsterDoc Wrote: I've have/had three on the list, if the Bonneville counts:
The V7 II was a ultimate disappointment.
Wait a minute....waaaaiiiittt a minute, this is interesting. I thought you really liked the V7II?? At least that's what you posted over on Wild Guzzi? I thought the only reason you got rid of that that bike is some owners of the dealer you purchased from made you upset because they asked you to get out of their parking spot and treated you rudely in your mind?
Do tell....what made the V7II "the ultimate disappointment" now...
I loved riding it and the shaft drive was flawless.
Although only 44 HP, torque was excellent.
Ultimately (all things considered, not that it was the ultimate disappointment), the primary annoyance was fueling. My 2012 Triumph, 2018 Yamaha and now the CB1100, start (cold or hot) and run perfect. The M-G did not. It also developed an intermittent need for throttle to idle. A secondary annoyance was having to remove the tank to see if it had the hybrid fuel filter, half metal and half plastic. I had enough miles on it to be confident that it did not have the missing thrust washer problem, which is an engine killer.
My WG post indicated that there is a lot to be liked about the V7II, but I wanted better. Also, some more off-road trails were calling, so I traded for a 2018 XT250 and explored those trails. Then friends asked when we were going again to Utah and holding 70 MPH on an XT250 is not relaxing.
I see, what you meant was the V7II "was ultimately a disappointment". Tweaking that phrase would have made all the difference haha
The fueling was likely related to not having the latest and best fuel map from the factory, that your dealer should have taken care of. There was a thread on WG that talked about it, and having that downloaded solved all my fueling issues.
I disagree that you "had" to remove the tank to check for the half plastic / half metal filter, they ALL have that and despite internet machinations to the contrary, is rarely an issue. Dave at MI said he "never" had to replace one due to a failure, and he is (was) "the guy" when it came to all things Moto Guzzi.
Sorry if I jumped you on that, I love the CB1100 but the V7 series are wonderful bikes also, that I'm a bit protective of, not perfect but the product itself is a sweet ride, dealer network and factory support issues aside.
Just found this thread. Not sure why the Kawasaki Z900RS is considered a "classic look" because it sure isn't (current highest vote).
There were no monoshock classic bikes, ever. It's also got mag wheels, instead of spokes. And it's water cooled. What's "classic" about any of that? It doesn't even really have classic lines, precisely because of these add-ons.
It's a modern hybrid in reality. And it's not the only one in the "list".
If it ain't air-cooled, it ain't a classic.
If it doesn't have spokes, it ain't a classic.
If it's got one shock, it ain't a classic.
11-28-2017 01:49 PM
Lord Popgun
I find your lack of RLETs disturbing
Virginia Beach
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(11-20-2017 02:56 AM)DaSwami Wrote: I see, what you meant was the V7II "was ultimately a disappointment". Tweaking that phrase would have made all the difference haha
The fueling was likely related to not having the latest and best fuel map from the factory, that your dealer should have taken care of. There was a thread on WG that talked about it, and having that downloaded solved all my fueling issues.
I disagree that you "had" to remove the tank to check for the half plastic / half metal filter, they ALL have that and despite internet machinations to the contrary, is rarely an issue. Dave at MI said he "never" had to replace one due to a failure, and he is (was) "the guy" when it came to all things Moto Guzzi.
Sorry if I jumped you on that, I love the CB1100 but the V7 series are wonderful bikes also, that I'm a bit protective of, not perfect but the product itself is a sweet ride, dealer network and factory support issues aside.
Carry on...
No issue...sometimes my attempt at brevity backfires!
Some posts on Wild Guzzi indicated being stranded, due to the filter bursting. Since most of my rides are distances, remote, solo and some/many without cell reception, I would not want that to be a possibility. I did see that Kevin M. (Bone on Sportster forum) burst tested a swollen filter and it held to 120 PSI, if I recall correctly.
I did pay the Las Vegas dealer (before butting heads with new owner) for the first service. Only done that twice out of 17 bikes (9 new). Mario did a conscientious job and downloaded the latest program. It was an improvement, but not enough. Could have gone to Beetle, but with the intermittent idle issue and the dealer situation, I was ready for a change and only one bike is in my Social Security budget.
I do miss the shaft drive and the Pelican cases I mounted.
I'll pile onto the V7 bandwagon. I owned two of them. The second one ('11 V7C) was one of my all-time favorite motorcycles but I couldn't justify a long-term relationship with it due to my local dealer's attitude and ineptitude. I never had an issue with the fuel filter, nor did I have any concerns about it, but the bike did have the infamous plastic tank which swelled due to the ethanol in our fuel supply and made servicing difficult. The engine was cold blooded but ran strong once up to operating temperature. Loved that motorcycle. In its place is my DLX, which is an outstanding motorcycle too, but it's a bit too perfect (refined?) and lacks the visceral charm of the V7.
Ride more. Worry less.
‘12 BMW R1200R Classic
'15 BMW R1200RT
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11-28-2017 05:23 PM
The ferret
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Liquid cooling, cast wheels and mono shocks have been used on motorcycles dating back into the 1890s
However in our terms for " classic" the 72 Suzuki GT 750 was liquid cooled, the 76 Yamaha RD 400C had cast wheels and the 82 Yamaha Virago 920 had a monoshock. I think all would be considered "classics" by most collectors in the motorcycle community.
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2021 NC750X DCT (Angry Bird)
11-28-2017 06:25 PM
tinboatcapt
1st Service Completed
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I loved my "Water buffalo". Gas, Oil, Tires, and Plugs for 70K miles and sold it. I wish I had kept it. Still have the wife. Glad I kept her...or she kept me...as the case may be.
Yeah, It was a long time ago.
jim
2014 CB1100 Std
2000 ST1100
1981 CB650C
(This post was last modified: 11-28-2017 07:13 PM by tinboatcapt.)