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Z900RS Dyno run
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davidsargee Offline
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RE: Z900RS Dyno run
I got my first look at the new Z900RS today, it certainly looks like a really nice bike, that's for sure. Having owned a Z-1 back in the day, ('74 model), I have been anxious to see this bike in person.

I like the RS, but I was surprised about a couple of things, for one, it seems to be a much smaller bike than the Z-1, yet the seat height is a little bit of a stretch for me. I'm a short guy, but I am almost flat footed on my CB1100, I was on tip toes on the RS, no big deal I guess, just an observation. In my opinion, the RS, while it resembles a Z-1 in some ways, is never going to be mistaken for one.

I like the 4 into 1 exhaust on the RS, but to me, the 4 into 4's on the original Z-1 were the most attractive OEM exhausts ever. I understand why they went with the 4 into 1's, weight savings, etc., sure, but part of me wishes they had recreated the original exhausts.

I am considering a new bike, and have narrowed my search to 3 bikes, the Z900, (not the RS), the Versys 1000 LT, or the new Honda CB1000R. I'm going to wait until the Honda comes out, unless the price information says it's too much. The Versys 1000 is probably my front runner, I like to go on road trips, and the Versys offers a whole lot of touring/sport touring capability for the money. I like the RS, but I also like the Z-900, if the RS wasn't so much more expensive, (there are a few differences, but I don't see $2400 worth of electronics and styling), it would definitely be in the conversation.

I am intrigued by the Z900, it has scored very high in every review I've seen, offers great handling and performance, and seems to fit me like a glove when I sit on one, it has a lot lower seat height than the RS, it's the same engine except for some tuning differences, the fueling is actually smoother than the RS, and it is a much better buy at $8799 for the ABS version. A tank bag, tail bag, and perhaps a Dart screen would make it an acceptable road bike. All of the reviews I've seen compliment the bike for it's comfortable ergonomics. There were a couple of testers that said the foot pegs are a little too high, but I have short legs so it's not a problem.

I think the RS is a really nice bike, it promises to be a good performer, and it's an attractive bike. There will be a lot of happy RS owners with real good reason. For me, it's priced higher than it should be, I would rather spend the money for a Versys 1000, or save money and buy the Z-900.

Of course, there's also the new Honda, if it is reasonably priced, (in the Versys' range), the decision will be much more difficult.

Cheers!

(01-17-2018 11:46 PM)Ulvetanna Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 11:08 PM)davidsargee Wrote:  The Z900 retails for $8799 (ABS), but the Z900RS is $11,199 if you want the "candytone brown/candytone orange" colors.
The extra money is mostly because it's "Made in Japan" instead of Thailand.

I guess I should state that while the Kawasaki website calls the supernaked the Z900, it's actual model name is the Z900R. Not to be confused with the original Z900.

I'm considering the Z900, how do you like yours?

A motorcycle's engine should have oil in it, not water...(Mitsuyoshi Kohama) The ferret
(This post was last modified: 01-17-2018 11:57 PM by davidsargee.)
01-17-2018 11:54 PM
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Cormanus Offline
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RE: Z900RS Dyno run
So, bye-bye CB, David?
01-18-2018 12:54 AM
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Guth Offline
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RE: Z900RS Dyno run
I'm guessing that the new CB1000R is going to create quite a buzz and that people are going to have a lot to say/write about it. But I'm also guessing that "it's reasonably priced" will not be one of those things. That bike just "looks" like it's going to cost a relative fortune to me. Of course, I'd love for Honda to prove me wrong even if the bike isn't a fit for me (quite literally that is as the seat height is out of my comfort range, lol).

2013 CB1100: Placed deposit on Nov. 12, 2012; Received delivery on April 5, 2013.
01-18-2018 12:58 AM
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Cormanus Offline
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RE: Z900RS Dyno run
In spite of myself, I like the look of the CB1000R, although I don’t think it will replace the CB1100 in the garage.
01-18-2018 01:19 AM
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Ulvetanna Offline
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RE: Z900RS Dyno run
(01-17-2018 11:54 PM)davidsargee Wrote:  I'm considering the Z900, how do you like yours?
I love it. Really. LOTS of power but a very flat power band, smoothest engine I have ever experienced (read all the reviews for confirmation), light weight, excellent handling, and good suspension with great brakes. You don't have to ride it fast but you sure can.

Seat height is pretty low, I've got a 29" inseam and it works fine for me, but it could be cut down and recovered as the foam is pretty thick.

KHI offer only a taller seat for the Z900 as the frame is different and already quite low. This is just the opposite of the Z900R, where it starts tall and you have to pay for the low seat.

The bike just has very light handling but is still very stable. Of course you'll want to get the suspension and so on set up, but it has good quality components, threaded shock with damping adjustment, preload and damping in the fork. I have not felt the need to replace any components, even though the shock spring rate is too stiff for my weight. It comes set up for a rider of about 180 lbs. The forks are perfect.

KHI has hit the mark with the new Z series, for sure.

(01-18-2018 01:19 AM)Cormanus Wrote:  In spite of myself, I like the look of the CB1000R, although I don’t think it will replace the CB1100 in the garage.
That bike is nothing like a CB1100. Meant to compete directly with the FZ10, and indirectly with the Z900. And it ain't gonna be cheap.

I think, if Honda bring the CB1100RS to the USA this year, that I will buy one, just to see how good a bike it is. I just do not think I could pass up that opportunity. I am on the fence regarding the EX, but the RS would just push me past the tipping point. That bike would be the perfect rendition of the CB1100 for my purposes. And what a looker.

This is all the lean angle I'll ever need for street riding:
İmage

2013 CB1100 Standard. July 2013 to December 2016, 10,500 miles. Low bars, Ikon shocks. Gone to a good home, I hope.Thumbs Up
(This post was last modified: 01-18-2018 09:42 AM by Ulvetanna.)
01-18-2018 09:36 AM
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davidsargee Offline
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Post: #16
RE: Z900RS Dyno run
(01-18-2018 12:54 AM)Cormanus Wrote:  So, bye-bye CB, David?

Not necessarily, my CB will be paid off soon, I intend to keep it. After 48k miles it deserves a break. Smile

(01-18-2018 12:58 AM)Guth Wrote:  I'm guessing that the new CB1000R is going to create quite a buzz and that people are going to have a lot to say/write about it. But I'm also guessing that "it's reasonably priced" will not be one of those things. That bike just "looks" like it's going to cost a relative fortune to me. Of course, I'd love for Honda to prove me wrong even if the bike isn't a fit for me (quite literally that is as the seat height is out of my comfort range, lol).

I'm thinking the same thing, it could be out of reach, however, the bike it is replacing retailed somewhere around 12-13k, so there is a chance, slim as it might be.

A motorcycle's engine should have oil in it, not water...(Mitsuyoshi Kohama) The ferret
(This post was last modified: 01-18-2018 10:10 AM by davidsargee.)
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