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Reliability
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Rocky Offline
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Nova Scotia, Canada
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Post: #41
RE: Reliability
(03-14-2018 06:02 AM)Houtman Wrote:  Single carb bikes are easier to deal with than some the bikes I owned : CBX's , VF 1000 R's and other 3 or four carb bikes.
On my carb bikes I always used Blue Stabil in the winter months

I always drain the carbs and gas tanks on my non EFI bikes before winter storage.
Effortless starting in the spring with fresh gas.

Still rockin', rollin', and ridin' after all these years
'67 BSA 441 VR, '70 Triumph Tiger 100, '02 Honda CB900F, '06 Triumph T100 Bonneville, '14 Honda CB1100A
03-14-2018 06:06 AM
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Flynrider Offline
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Phoenix, AZ
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Post: #42
RE: Reliability
Carbs have only been a problem for me when they were allowed to sit idle with deteriorating gas. My CB750 has been in service for 22 years and is ridden regularly. The carbs on that bike have never been touched in over 50K miles.*

My buddy had the identical bike, but after getting a new bike, his CB750 would sit for 4 or 5 months at a time. He was continually plagued by carb issues. I finally convinced him to sell it, rather than pulling the carbs for cleaning every time he wanted to ride it.

I often hear that fuel injection is better because it's not susceptible to these issues. I've often wondered about that. Wouldn't old gas tend to gum up the small passages in the injectors, in the same way it plugs up small idle circuit passages and jets in carbs?


*Both of my CBs get a Seafoam treatment every 3 or 4 months to keep fuel system varnish deposits to a minimum.

Phoenix, AZ
2013 CB1100 - Big Red
1993 CB750 Nighthawk - Tahitian Blue
03-14-2018 02:45 PM
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use2b Offline
High Mileage

Perdido Key Florida
Posts: 1,040
Joined: Aug 2016
Post: #43
RE: Reliability
Carbs have been great for me , other than the two years i was without a CB750 because my 69 model was stolen i owned at least one CB750 all these years. It takes me 15 min to remove the carbs but a full hour a piece to rebuild and reassemble taking my time to mechanically synchronize them without gauges and always ran and idled well.
so for over 45 years of riding cb750's i did 3 rebuilds , not bad at all.
hated to see the last one go and never had a fuel pump problem --- like i may someday have now !!!!!
have used Seafoam for years and now my carbureted Trucks split a bottle every now and then

the CB160 and 305's were actually fun to rebuild and so simple and easy but I did run " Marine Fuel " aka non ethanol because it is everywhere here and better on carbs

Historic side note - my family was producing ethanol a long time before the government got involved ......

The best part about growing up in Florida is i didn't have to move here when i got old.
former owner of the baddest 2013 CB1100 ever ;] now a plush ride -2014 Goldwing Valkyrie GL1800C
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03-14-2018 03:09 PM
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Cormanus Offline
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Queensland, Australia
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Post: #44
RE: Reliability
(03-14-2018 03:09 PM)use2b Wrote:  Historic side note - my family was producing ethanol a long time before the government got involved ......

So, should we hold you to account for giving them ideas? Tongue
03-14-2018 03:12 PM
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Flytech99 Offline
1st Service Completed

Utah
Posts: 125
Joined: Dec 2016
Post: #45
RE: Reliability
(03-13-2018 01:06 PM)PowerDubs Wrote:  
(03-13-2018 12:39 PM)Bheezy27403 Wrote:  Pfft. I love carbs!

I hate carbs. Bad enough to maintain on my single cyl dirtbikes-

I bought a ZRX1200 in 2012, rode it home from the seller on the highway, no problem. Took it out for the next ride and a few miles in- it spit, sputtered and died. Sucked some cuss up in a carb. Managed to get it started and home but I parked it and haven't touched it since. No joke.

Bought the CB1100 almost 2 years ago now. Not a problem. The ZRX is pretty to look at though. Smile

This is precisely the reason why I chose the CB1100 over a used ZRX for myself...

And it only highlights the missed opportunity that came when Kawasaki failed to export the later DAEG version out of the Asian markets. It was fuel injected and had a black powder coated swing arm; the two requisite things in my mind to make the ZRX darn near perfect.
03-14-2018 04:25 PM
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Houtman Offline
Been There

NC USA
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Post: #46
RE: Reliability
(03-14-2018 02:45 PM)Flynrider Wrote:  Carbs have only been a problem for me when they were allowed to sit idle with deteriorating gas. My CB750 has been in service for 22 years and is ridden regularly. The carbs on that bike have never been touched in over 50K miles.*

My buddy had the identical bike, but after getting a new bike, his CB750 would sit for 4 or 5 months at a time. He was continually plagued by carb issues. I finally convinced him to sell it, rather than pulling the carbs for cleaning every time he wanted to ride it.

I often hear that fuel injection is better because it's not susceptible to these issues. I've often wondered about that. Wouldn't old gas tend to gum up the small passages in the injectors, in the same way it plugs up small idle circuit passages and jets in carbs?


*Both of my CBs get a Seafoam treatment every 3 or 4 months to keep fuel system varnish deposits to a minimum.
Does the pressure from the fuel injectors keep the passages cleaner , not relying on gravity for the fuel ?
03-14-2018 05:19 PM
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PowerDubs Offline
Road Warrior

NWNJ
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Post: #47
Reliability
Yea. FI engines can sit for years and run fine. Been there, done that.


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03-14-2018 06:51 PM
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use2b Offline
High Mileage

Perdido Key Florida
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Post: #48
RE: Reliability
(03-14-2018 06:51 PM)PowerDubs Wrote:  Yea. FI engines can sit for years and run fine. Been there, done that.


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agree , my hurricane generators set for years and are so dependable because i always ran them dry and sprayed a light oil or WD 40 mixture in the carbs just before they died and had no problems with sticking.

old school stuff !

The best part about growing up in Florida is i didn't have to move here when i got old.
former owner of the baddest 2013 CB1100 ever ;] now a plush ride -2014 Goldwing Valkyrie GL1800C
03-14-2018 07:10 PM
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Riko Offline
High Mileage

Belgium
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Joined: Dec 2013
Post: #49
RE: Reliability
hahaha @ BMW Big Grin
...and their biased riders (mostly GS riders that think their LC is the holy grale of the motorcycling world)

Being from Belgium, a neighbour of Germany, you can imagine the GS is a mighty popular bike in the streetview.

Not even mentioning their arrogance.
True story when reading through posts in a general Belgian/Dutch motorcycle facebook group, being flooded by GS riders and how great their bike is, not open for anything else.
And worst, not tolerating critisism.
If so, get ready for a storm.

Riko,
Ducati rider Blush
....still more reliable than BMW Cool


Jap bikes still and always will lead the industry in terms of reliability.


(03-13-2018 08:38 AM)alprider Wrote:  BMW

B-ring
M-e
W-orkshop


Big Grin

Hello

in Dutch:

B-rol
M-et
W-ielen

translation
Junk
With
Wheels

[align=center][b]CB[color=#FFD700]1100[/color][color=#FF0000]EX[/color][/b]
Cool spoked wheels Cool

Follow [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=7489][i]The Belgian Build[/i][/url][/align]
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03-24-2018 01:44 PM
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kballowe Offline
1st Service Completed

Missouri
Posts: 147
Joined: May 2013
Post: #50
RE: Reliability
huh.

Notice that some bikes didn't even make the list.

Ural
Royal Enfield

...and my favorite most reliable bike (not) Big Grin
.
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İmage

No matter where you go, there you are.

[b]2017 Moto Guzzi V7 III Special[/b]
[color=#A9A9A9]2014 CB1100 Deluxe[/color]
[color=#A9A9A9]2013 CB1100[/color]
(This post was last modified: 03-27-2018 05:35 AM by kballowe.)
03-27-2018 05:34 AM
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