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Ascot1983 · 04-22-2018 06:15 AM

What changes were made to the 2017 model versus the 2013/14 models? I know the tank, headlight, tail lights and wheels are different. Any mechanical differences in the engine or transmission?

Lord Popgun · 04-22-2018 06:26 AM

The 13s have a 5 speed. 14 and up 6 speed.

FWIW the axle size is different in the 13s, smaller in the 14 and up.

Instrumentation is different. More info after 13.

There are more diffs here and there.

cookiemech · 04-22-2018 06:26 AM

Minor exhaust system changes to make it sound "better", though reportedly NO internal engine changes. Same transmission.

Redbird · 04-22-2018 08:42 AM

Front forks are different on the 17. They have the duel bending valve technology.

VLJ · 04-22-2018 05:50 PM

Besides all the extra chrome and aluminum, the main differences for the '17 EX are the forks, shocks, wheels, inlets, tank, headlight, and tail light.

NightRider · 04-22-2018 07:32 PM

(04-22-2018 05:50 PM)VLJ Wrote: Besides all the extra chrome and aluminum, the main differences for the '17 EX are the forks, shocks, wheels, inlets, tank, headlight, and tail light.

Which btw is why perhaps they are still sitting in the showrooms and being discounted and the new Harley bikes are black and dark chrome. Dark is in even at harley Davidson.

Stichill · 04-22-2018 08:04 PM

(04-22-2018 07:32 PM)NightRider Wrote:
(04-22-2018 05:50 PM)VLJ Wrote: Besides all the extra chrome and aluminum, the main differences for the '17 EX are the forks, shocks, wheels, inlets, tank, headlight, and tail light.

Which btw is why perhaps they are still sitting in the showrooms and being discounted and the new Harley bikes are black and dark chrome. Dark is in even at harley Davidson.

I'm of the opinion that there are so many 2014 CB1100 standards left over because they are murdered out vs. silver and chrome like the DLX. People would probably be willing to live without the DLX features if the standards had come in something other than Model T black.

VLJ · 04-22-2018 08:10 PM

(04-22-2018 07:32 PM)NightRider Wrote:
(04-22-2018 05:50 PM)VLJ Wrote: Besides all the extra chrome and aluminum, the main differences for the '17 EX are the forks, shocks, wheels, inlets, tank, headlight, and tail light.

Which btw is why perhaps they are still sitting in the showrooms and being discounted and the new Harley bikes are black and dark chrome. Dark is in even at harley Davidson.

Nope, that's not the reason at all. The bike's looks are not the problem. In general, people who appreciate retro standards love the overall aesthetics of every CB1100 model. The issue with the '17 EX is the same problem that has always afflicted the CB1100 model line: too high of an initial msrp for what is perceived by many as too little relative performance from a Honda-built 1140cc I4.

The only model of CB1100 that sold out was the very-limited-production '14 Deluxe, which, like the '17 EX, was also extremely red, and slathered in shiny chrome. Honda produced so few '14 Deluxes, however, that it's difficult to gauge how successful the model would have been had it been produced in the same numbers as the '14 Standard.

Anyway, it's very simple. Drop the '17 EX's initial msrp to $9,999 and add twenty-five ponies to the stable, and there would be precious little reason to buy any other naked retro.

Edit: I agree with Stichill. The murdered-out look of the '14 was a contributing factor in its poor sales numbers, as was its lack of dual exhaust pipes. Of course there are plenty of owners of the '13 model and the '14 Standard that prefer the lighter weight of the single exhaust, but the general consensus is that the red models were prettier, and, more importantly, more period-correct for a CB Honda. Additionally, the numerous upgrades touted by Honda for the '14 Deluxe left the '14 Standard looking like an entry-level model for the budget-conscious buyer, which, as it turned out, is exactly what it ended up being.

cookiemech · 04-23-2018 03:10 AM

Agree with VLJ!

BamaRider · 04-23-2018 02:50 PM

VJ came in and advised-

"general consensus is that the red models were prettier, and, more importantly, more period-correct for a CB Honda. "

Right. I didn't/don't care about how fast, I wanted the true retro look, and the 2017 is as close as you're gonna get. In 1972 I had a CB 350F and a few years later my dad rode a 1974 CB 750. The 2017 has all the character of those early CBs, and I'm glad I got mine before its too late.