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Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
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Flynrider Offline
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
(04-17-2015 07:55 AM)ChipBeck Wrote:  In any event, just like the day came when the last new air cooled 911 was sold in America, I think the CB11 may just be the last big transverse 4, air cooled motorcycle sold in the U.S.

I have no doubt that you are correct. When they announced production of the CB1100 in 2009, I was amazed. Only because the tightening emissions controls made it very unlikely for a big air cooled inline 4 to survive further tightening. Air cooling is an emissions control nightmare.

Big air cooled 4s had mostly exited the U.S. market prior to the CB11's appearance. The CB750 ended (here) in 2003 and the air cooled Bandit 1200 was done by 2007. At that point, I honestly thought the big air cooled inline 4 was a thing of the past.

Unlike you, Chip, I've been a UJM fan since I started riding. I thought my CB750 would be my last bike, since nothing else on the market appealed to my UJM tastes. Having the opportunity to buy a CB1100 was like a surprise gift to me. I think this window of opportunity will definitely be the last.

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04-17-2015 06:02 PM
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treytexag Offline
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
(04-17-2015 07:55 AM)ChipBeck Wrote:  With the Staintune it sings the most soulful song on freeway on ramps and it's so much more satisfying to ride and look at than the Monster or Bonniville IMO. Like all of my air cooled Harley Davidsons, the CB1100 looks right, sounds right, feels right, and works right.

Not to go offtopic, but is there a good example of what the CB11 with a staintube installed on it sounds like, say on a youtube video? I'd like to hear it . . .

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[size=x-small]First bike: 1977 Puch 50 cc moped
Second bike: 1979 Honda XL100
Third bike: 1980 Honda CX500 Custom
Fourth bike: 1994 Honda 750 Nighthawk
Fifth bike: 2014 Honda CB1100 DLX[/size]
04-17-2015 07:20 PM
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Ghis Offline
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
We all know that Japan has had for years a modern CB750 FOUR that looks very much like the original one. I've always wondered why not that one for the US market, instead of making yet another Retro CB in the form of the current 1100. Maybe we had outgrown the old CB of olds, and Honda knew we'd want something bigger? Though the big CB was developed and sold for many markets before showing up on our shores in 2013...

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[b]Now[/b]: '13 Triumph Scrambler & '13 Honda CB1100.
[b]Then[/b]: '85 Vulcan 700/'95 Vulcan 750/'97 Marauder 800/'08 Sportster 883/'12 Dyna Wide Glide/'14 Sportster Seventy Two 1200.
04-17-2015 09:56 PM
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pekingduck Offline
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
(04-17-2015 09:56 PM)Ghis Wrote:  We all know that Japan has had for years a modern CB750 FOUR that looks very much like the original one. I've always wondered why not that one for the US market, instead of making yet another Retro CB in the form of the current 1100. Maybe we had outgrown the old CB of olds, and Honda knew we'd want something bigger? Though the big CB was developed and sold for many markets before showing up on our shores in 2013...

A 750 used to be a big bike, but nowadays, it's at best a mid-size in the US. It's easy to warrant a more premium price for more displacement. A 750 would have no fewer parts, so it wouldn't be much cheaper to make.
04-17-2015 11:32 PM
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Guth Offline
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
(04-17-2015 07:20 PM)treytexag Wrote:  
(04-17-2015 07:55 AM)ChipBeck Wrote:  With the Staintune it sings the most soulful song on freeway on ramps and it's so much more satisfying to ride and look at than the Monster or Bonniville IMO. Like all of my air cooled Harley Davidsons, the CB1100 looks right, sounds right, feels right, and works right.

Not to go offtopic, but is there a good example of what the CB11 with a staintube installed on it sounds like, say on a youtube video? I'd like to hear it . . .

Here you go.

Just listened to my own video once again. That is truly a beautiful exhaust note to my ears. Interesting question posed by Chip. The CB1100 might indeed prove to be the last of its kind on these shores.

Regardless, I'm enjoying mine tremendously.

The Honda CB1100: STILL air-COOLed
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(This post was last modified: 04-17-2015 11:36 PM by Guth.)
04-17-2015 11:32 PM
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lemontree Offline
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
FYI BMW has announced the Scrambler
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-b...is-coming/
04-18-2015 03:01 AM
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lola Offline
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
The 2013 cb1100 was voted and was made the best standard of 2013 in the US.

Im all for new innovation and technology specially with motos, its what keeps the sport going whether you like it or not and Makes new riders because of it . We can all speculate on what honda might or might not do im just glad honda threw us a bone with the cb. Enjoy it. Hondas bold move to bring the cb states side will probably inspire other makes to bring their own but all I can do is speculate...

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04-18-2015 03:17 AM
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Lord Popgun Offline
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
Lemontree,

Our very own member Ack took his RnineT and pretty much made into a scrambler. Maybe BMW used his as inspiration? Smile

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04-18-2015 03:46 AM
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sig_a Offline
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Ohio
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
(04-18-2015 03:01 AM)lemontree Wrote:  FYI BMW has announced the Scrambler
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-b...is-coming/

Honda and BMW both detune air cooled motors as a way to keep in compliance, which is one reason the CB1100 engine is only 9.5:1 compression @ 85 BHP.

Honda will continue to make the CB1100 model so long as it's profitable. Many dealers don't know how to sell them.

Air-cooled engines remain on current model of HD's, H's K's, Y's, S's, and will not die off any faster than water-cooled.

The genuine challenge to all motorcycle manufacturers of internal combustion engines remains electricity.

For example, http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/

Despite BMW not scoring very well in the recent Consumers Report article, unit sales are up about 16% YOY.
04-18-2015 07:35 AM
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JustPassinThru Offline
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RE: Will the CB1100 be the last of it's kind in America?
(04-18-2015 07:35 AM)sig_a Wrote:  Despite BMW not scoring very well in the recent Consumers Report article, unit sales are up about 16% YOY.

BMW is becoming an image brand (more than it already had been) and rich-man's goods.

It's dangerous to step into politics on such a board as this one, but politics touches us on many levels. For whatever reason, the income of Yuppie-Bankers has just TAKEN OFF. They suddenly have more money than they'd ever dreamed of; and so all the toys that a thirty-something paper-pusher might want - BMW motorcycles; BMW cars; Harley-Davidson motorcycles, Aspen ski lodges, racing boats...those are all selling well.

Honda is not seeing that. Honda does not have, never tried to have, the cachet that H-D and BMW now have. Honda is quality but Honda has always let its quality speak for itself. BMW has cultivated ITS image, quietly, of Germanic engineering and quality...some of which was deserved, some of which no longer is. And we know what H-D sells.

I don't think Honda's corporate aiming was flawed; but they seem to be in the right-place/wrong-time mode.
04-18-2015 08:14 AM
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