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MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
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MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
2017-2018 Suzuki Team: Andrea Ianonne and Alex Rins

Alexis Espargaro likey to take the last factory Aprilia seat.

Bradly Smith and Pol Espargaro on the factory KTMs for 2017-2018

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06-20-2016 09:17 AM
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RE: MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
Can't wait to see how many Suzukis Iannone can destroy in one season. Suzuki may rue the day they signed him but I hope I'm proven wrong.

I'm most curious about Lorenzo's chances for next year. The Ducati is a very different bike to ride from the Yamaha and does not lend itself well to his smooth riding style, or so say the "experts". I was hoping that Vinales would stay with Suzuki and that Pedrosa would team with Rossi at Yamaha.

With the success in WSB that Kawasaki is having and the wealth of that very diversified corporation, will Kawasaki soon get back into Motogp? I hope they will.

Next season should be even more exciting than this year.

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RE: MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
(06-20-2016 09:55 AM)redbirds Wrote:  Can't wait to see how many Suzukis Iannone can destroy in one season. Suzuki may rue the day they signed him but I hope I'm proven wrong.

I'm most curious about Lorenzo's chances for next year. The Ducati is a very different bike to ride from the Yamaha and does not lend itself well to his smooth riding style, or so say the "experts". I was hoping that Vinales would stay with Suzuki and that Pedrosa would team with Rossi at Yamaha.

With the success in WSB that Kawasaki is having and the wealth of that very diversified corporation, will Kawasaki soon get back into Motogp? I hope they will.

Next season should be even more exciting than this year.
Good comments. Lorenzo's primary value to Ducati is as a development rider. He'll be able to work with their engineers to adjust and sort the bike for cornering speed, which is the weak area for Ducati. Lorenzo will not change, the bike will be changed to meet Lorenzo's needs. If it takes one or two years, no problem. Good business plan.

Suzuki currently makes a better racebike than Ducati in terms of pure handling and is working on getting more power.

Less power in Iannone's right hand is not a bad thing, he'll need to work on his cornering. Thumbs Up
06-20-2016 12:05 PM
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RE: MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
I just read Kawasaki said it's too expensive to get into and they dont like the rules. So they have no plans to get back into MotoGP
here's the article

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/mo...-kawasaki/

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RE: MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
(06-20-2016 12:06 PM)The ferret Wrote:  I just read Kawasaki said it's too expensive to get into and they dont like the rules. So they have no plans to get back into MotoGP
here's the article

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/mo...-kawasaki/
Thx for that, being a Kawasaki rider I should know these things.
06-20-2016 02:13 PM
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RE: MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
Just wish Honda would update the Fireblade engine soon for use in WSBK. Been eight years, I think. When it rains, Nicky can win. In the dry, they run away from him.
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(06-20-2016 06:19 PM)DAC Wrote:  Just wish Honda would update the Fireblade engine soon for use in WSBK. Been eight years, I think. When it rains, Nicky can win. In the dry, they run away from him.
They need an entirely new machine with a comprehensive electronics package. It's unreal how fast some of these newer track day riders are going with that stuff. New R1's, Ducatis, etcetera, just allow you to get on the stick really early out of the turn and put the power down.

This video from my track day Saturday shows a couple of examples; first one, guy just ahead of me on a Panigale 1299 is not exactly parking it in the turn but we could've gone faster...he gives it full stick in the left-hander and almost runs off the inside of the track but keeps it on the pavement. Later a guy on a new R1 passes me on the inside at the end of the back straight but does indeed "park it" running about 25 mph off my pace. I didn't pass him because sometimes these guys will suddenly run wide; at the apex I start to go around him onto the straight, but once he starts to exit the turn, he whacks the throttle and disappears. Without TC, both these guys would have high-sided.

The speeds on the dash are high by about 15 percent.



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RE: MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
Movistar Yamaha
Valentino Rossi 2017-2018
Maverick Viñales 2017-2018

Repsol Honda
Dani Pedrosa 2017-2018
Marc Márquez 2017-2018

Ecstar Suzuki
Andrea Iannone 2017-2018
Alex Rins 2017-2018

Gresini Aprilia
Sam Lowes 2017-2018
Unsigned

KTM Factory
Bradley Smith 2017-2018
Pol Espargaro 2017-2018

Factory Ducati
Jorge Lorenzo 2017-2018
Andrea Dovizioso 2017-2018

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RE: MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
(06-20-2016 06:19 PM)DAC Wrote:  Just wish Honda would update the Fireblade engine soon for use in WSBK. Been eight years, I think. When it rains, Nicky can win. In the dry, they run away from him.

Rumor is that Honda is developing a replacement for the Fireblade with a full electronics package, V4 engine and much technology learned from their Motogp bike. Problem is they need it now.

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4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
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RE: MotoGP... Rins to Suzuki..Espargaro out
(06-21-2016 04:55 AM)redbirds Wrote:  
(06-20-2016 06:19 PM)DAC Wrote:  Just wish Honda would update the Fireblade engine soon for use in WSBK. Been eight years, I think. When it rains, Nicky can win. In the dry, they run away from him.

Rumor is that Honda is developing a replacement for the Fireblade with a full electronics package, V4 engine and much technology learned from their Motogp bike. Problem is they need it now.
Oh yeah...for sure Honda is coming out with something all-new and completely awesome. Be nice if it were a V4. The current CBR1000RR is a very good, competent bike but technology has made it obsolete, like my GSX-R. Great track bike and handles well but with no electronics, I need that extra layer of caution when riding since the computer nanny isn't there. I let the high-tech boys have their fun.

(06-21-2016 03:29 AM)CB4ME Wrote:  Movistar Yamaha
Valentino Rossi 2017-2018
Maverick Viñales 2017-2018

Repsol Honda
Dani Pedrosa 2017-2018
Marc Márquez 2017-2018

Ecstar Suzuki
Andrea Iannone 2017-2018
Alex Rins 2017-2018

Gresini Aprilia
Sam Lowes 2017-2018
Unsigned

KTM Factory
Bradley Smith 2017-2018
Pol Espargaro 2017-2018

Factory Ducati
Jorge Lorenzo 2017-2018
Andrea Dovizioso 2017-2018
Heck of a lineup. Movistar has a fantastic team. Vinales, in my opinion, is the finest of the new young riders. Suzuki has the best-handling bike, Ducati the most power, Yamaha seems to be the best balance of both, and Honda can go either way, both fast and handles brilliantly.

I like to see that both the V4 and I4 are well-represented.

This tech stuff is all finding its way into street superbikes (except for the pneumatic valves and seamless gearbox). Not sure whether I will be riding long enough to get another, but if I do, I suspect Honda's new machine will be at the top of the list.
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