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coliban Offline
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Hamburg, Germany
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Post: #31
RE: Hello from Germany
Hello, thank you.

As i also discovered on the Honda site some month ago, the engine, by itself, is fully Euro 4 compliant:

Sekiya:
I'd imagine that with a lower output, various aspects of developing an engine would be easier, but was this the case?

Fukunaga:
No, not at all. Since the engine is air-cooled, we had difficulties with engine temperature and environmental aspects such as exhaust regulations. The oil-cooling structure around the spark plug seating was a headache, and since we didn't want the CB1100 to be one-off model, we considered not only Japan-domestic emission regulations, but Euro4 regulations for 2016. [2017]

http://world.honda.com/CB1100/engineer-talk/episode5/

But for the german/european Euro4 regulation, there are more demands than just the engine, there have to be an bus system for electronics, something like CAN and there has to be an interface, an "On Board Diagnostic" system, (of curse ABS which the cb has), and the OBD has to deliver substantial information about the bike.

Therefore, the CB1100EX 2016 is not Euro4 compliant and it is forbidden, to sell a new one in europe from th 1.1.2017. If Honda wants to follow their model line, they have to make some adjustments to the CB1100Ex and then they would roll out an new version of the cb1100ex. I believe, that they do exactly this, launch a new version of the CB1100EX (otherwise, the cb1100ex engine with euro4 norm would had made no sense).

regards
09-28-2016 04:33 AM
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Lord Popgun Offline
I find your lack of RLETs disturbing

Virginia Beach
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Post: #32
RE: Hello from Germany
I couldn't find anything that said the bikes need a buss system, just that they must have OBD1 and then ODB2 for Euro 5(2020). Plus the ABS and emissions stuff.

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09-28-2016 05:28 AM
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coliban Offline
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Hamburg, Germany
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Post: #33
RE: Hello from Germany
(09-28-2016 05:28 AM)popgun Wrote:  I couldn't find anything that said the bikes need a buss system, just that they must have OBD1 and then ODB2 for Euro 5(2020). Plus the ABS and emissions stuff.

Yes, but for the OBD, they must have some sort of bus system, otherwise there would not be something like an interface where to connect the OBD.
09-28-2016 05:39 AM
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Lord Popgun Offline
I find your lack of RLETs disturbing

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Post: #34
RE: Hello from Germany
I couldn't find that (quickly looking anyway) in ODB information. Our bikes already have a diagnostic port. It is not ODB1 or 2 but info can be read using the Honda scan tool, or aftermarket tools. I have one that plugs into the port and to a PC. Shows a LOT of info. and works on Honda outboards too.

I would imagine Honda could change it to be ODB compliant easily enough. There are 5 signaling protocols; one (or more) must be used to communicate with the ECU (CAN is one of the protocols). Honda already does it with cars, changing shouldn't be that big a deal IMHO. Heck, they will have to do it for any bike they want to sell in the EU.

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09-28-2016 06:15 AM
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coliban Offline
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Hamburg, Germany
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Post: #35
RE: Hello from Germany
So, after i passed the driving license test, i bought my dream bike, a red CB1100EX.
   
This weekend it was very rainy, but i drove about 300 Miles in Northern Germany, it is a really study and stable bike. But it looks much more lighter than it is in real! I cleaned it and yesterday, also on a rainy day, i made the first photos of my new bike. Next thing is to search for a luggage system, bags or something waterproofed bags and holders and a Jacket for the rain.

Thank you all for your kind help!

   
10-10-2016 01:35 AM
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Lord Popgun Offline
I find your lack of RLETs disturbing

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Post: #36
RE: Hello from Germany
Beautiful bike there Coliban. Now get some RLETs on there Wink

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10-10-2016 03:21 AM
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curlyjoe Offline
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Massachusetts
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Post: #37
RE: Hello from Germany
Your red EX looks beautiful coliban!

Congrats!

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10-10-2016 03:27 AM
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The ferret Offline
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Ohio
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Post: #38
RE: Hello from Germany
Gorgeous. COngrats Coliban

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10-10-2016 03:29 AM
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Cormanus Offline
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Queensland, Australia
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Post: #39
RE: Hello from Germany
Lovely bike, Coliban. Congratulations.
10-10-2016 04:51 AM
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Riko Offline
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Belgium
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Post: #40
RE: Hello from Germany
congratz

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10-10-2016 05:09 AM
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